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New Horizons Owners Newsletter

Volume 2005 Number 3 -- April 2005

Editor: Lloyd Treichel - lloyd@wandrin.us

 

Exchange Contents:

Rally 2005

Notes from/to New Horizons Owners

Customization and Enhancements

Repairing Gapping Fiber Glass

Editor's Forward:

The Exchange needs material. Ideas include:

● Customizations
● Enhancements
● Great Gadgets
● Great campgrounds
● Met other NH owners on the road?
● Advice to your fellow RVers
● An email saying "Hello from..."

Nothing appears in the Exchange without your input. Input is not limited to New Horizons owners.

All New Horizons owner names appear in bold face.
 

Rally 2005

The next New Horizons Rally will be held at Sundermeier RV Park, St. Charles, MO from Sept 30 - Oct 4, 2005. Rally sessions and rig tours will be on the schedule. Time will be available for local touring. For those planning on attending the Fall Escapade in DuQuoin, IL, after the "hitch up breakfast", drive the 100 miles to St. Charles for lunch.

Additional details can be found at:
http://www.nhog.us/rallies/rally2005/index.htm

 

Notes from/to New Horizons Owners

From: Sue and Tom Wharton [received: May 3, 2005]

Do you know of anyone or has there been a discussion of a modification to the front closet so that the shelves are more accessible? We are interested in doing this and queried Ken, basically he said the entire closet wall needs to be removed and rebuilt in order to have better access to the shelves. I had thought I heard of someone who did this at Horizons and it didn't cost too much. Ken was talking major dollars that we don't want to spend.

Thanks
[email: wharton (at) mail.escapees.com]
 

From: Jim and Chris Rett [from personal email to editor - April 16, 2005]

We are dry camping near San Luis Reservoir, about 40 miles east of Gilroy, CA. After SKP park Jojoba Hills, we worked our way up the coast from Carpinteria (Santa Barbara) to Santa Cruz staying in State Parks on the beaches. It was fun, but expensive...up to $25/night for dry camping! We also did the Hearst Castle and Monterey Aquarium as we drove up Hiway 1.

In a few days we head to the Coarsegold SKP park for a week or two before working our way north back into Oregon/Washington.


From: Lloyd Treichel

My stay in San Diego was extended to six weeks after my truck was stolen on April 12th. Without Silver Slug, I couldn't go anywhere. That little rental car was not capable of towing Wandrin Wagon. Silver Slug was recovered in Mexico with little damage, no batteries, no radio, no spare tire and no personal contents. Three weeks later, I was back on the road.

Rather than relate my travels here, see http://www.wandrin.us


Customization and Enhancements

Floor Storage Bins on Slide Out

by Ron and Anita Wilson

We began 6½ years ago with 2 Lazy Boy wall-hugger recliners. About 3 years later, we went back to the factory and had a ‘Toy Box’ installed along the wall behind the recliners, the length of the 12’ slide. There is a lid every 2 feet for easy access. This box replaced all the other storage type boxes along the wall, which looked junky. The top is covered with the same laminate as the table, desk, and kitchen and bath counters. One section holds all the file folders which originally were in a large drawer below the entertainment center. This drawer now holds the computer printer, which is always ready for use. The cord that connects to the rear of the lap top comes up through a hole in the back corner of the desktop. At that time, we had them remove the carpet from the slide and install parquet tile (to match the rest of the room). They installed a square of plywood beneath each recliner to fit within the frame of the chairs so they would not move during travel. We are able to pick them up when we need to clean the floor in that area.

We incorporated a feature from the floor plan of the Justices: the bathroom floor extends to the side of the bed. The step-up is at the end of the bed to walk around the foot. This makes the bathroom floor larger and allowed for three drawers under the 15” x 19” bedside table. The other side has two drawers. There are two drawers under the bed on the bath side. Because we don't have a bedroom slide, there is plenty of storage space under the bed. We had them install 110 and 12 volt in each of the cabinets above and below the night stands. We placed a medical device in one of the cabinets. The cabinet doors have louvers for air circulation.

Also, in the bathroom, recessed space was made at the back of the counter for bottles, etc. Horizon moved the backsplash forward 3” and behind that we place liquid soap, lotions, toothbrush holder, etc. These items are permanently ‘stowed.’

Another neat thing we requested before construction is a flip-out in front of the kitchen sink. This area holds the metal sink stoppers and assorted scrubbers. This required the sink to be placed up against the backsplash; otherwise, it won't work as an add-on.

We will not be able to attend the next Rally because the date conflicts with the cruise we will be on to celebrate our 45th anniversary. Hopefully, we will be able to attend the next one.


Repairing Gapping Fiber Glass

by Ron and Anita Wilson

[Pictures included below]

We have a 1998 NH, #346. Ron discovered that the edges of the outside wall panels, where they overlap, were coming apart. Horizon suggested using an aerosol spray adhesive, but Ron did not find this to be effective.

After some trial and error, he came up with a procedure which worked for him. He purchased or collected the following:

Dual Suction cups ---- Harbor Freight- $6 each – He used 6 clamps – clean wall area and wet each cup before use. Place on fiberglass – not on the stripe; need smooth surface. Can be placed horizontal or vertical. Use care if placing on window glass.

Epoxy Adhesive ---- For FIBERGLASS -Wal-Mart (paint section – less than $3 each) – 2 tubes together, with plunger, so the same amount of both types of adhesive dispenses together. One double tube will cover 9-12 feet; depending on how much of 1½” overlap needs repair. Sensitive skin? – use disposable gloves.

Putty knife 2” wide ----For lifting up seam to clean, sand, and re-clean before applying epoxy and to get brush in with adhesive to apply to both sides of overlap area. After tension is applied to boards, some Epoxy may ooze out. Use putty knife to clean off excess Epoxy. Use Acetone saturated rag to clean off knife before Epoxy hardens.

Flux Brushes ----Harbor Freight – 36-Pack – Metal Body – 7/8” long Horse Hair Bristles – Item 41338. One time use only. Use hammer to gently flatten about 1” of handle for easier access to area for Epoxy. Because these are cheap brushes, some hairs may come out. Be sure to remove and use another brush if excessive amount of bristles fall out.

Boards from Lowe’s or Home Depot ----
....6 each 5/8” x 1½” approximately 18” long to add tension under handles of suction cups. 1 or 2 boards can be used depending on tension needed.
....4 each 1” x 3” or 1” x 4” approximately 3-4’ long to place along stripe at overlap. Will need to cut a board or two shorter for small areas. Do large areas first.
....Ύ” square x 3’ long stick. Shave about 3” at the ends of stick so they will fit into ends of suction cup handles. Use for narrow areas. See picture showing area beside front door.

Acetone ---- To clean out old glue/dirt, remove excess adhesive from wall, and putty knife. Use care with Acetone because it can remove color from stripe not covered with blue tape and add it to white areas. Warning Smokers – Acetone is flammable!

Sand Paper ---- About 1” wide, with cloth backing – to rough up underneath stripe. After sanding, place Acetone on old rag, cover putty knife and insert under seam to clean area so Epoxy will adhere better.

Hammer ---- To tap tension boards (in under suction cups handles), shims in place, as needed, and along seam.

Blue Masking Tape ---- Called 14-Day tape – 2” wide. Apply along lower edge of top panel and just below on lower panel. This keeps adhesive from adhering to wall where you don’t want it. Fold ends under, for easier removal. One of the pictures shows regular masking tape. Mistake! Blue tape comes off easier; regular DOES NOT. Completely cover colored stripe with tape.

Disposable plate ---- Or cover of adhesive package – to mix Epoxy Adhesive.

Paper towel ---- Dry and wet ones. Use to clean area for suction cups and moisten cups for better seal.

Shims ---- To add tension, as needed.

Single edge razor blade with holder ---- For removing glue on walls and blue masking tape during cleanup. Use care to not damage colored stripe.

Pointed Box cutter ---- Run blade along edge of hardened seam to cut away any excess tape or Epoxy that may have oozed out during drying process. Use care and not too much force so knife doesn’t slip and cause damage to stripe or wall.

Ladder

  1. Determine areas that need repair. Use putty knife to see if top portion will lift up. Some of the areas on our ‘house’ were visible enough that Ron could see them. For the rest, he used the putty knife
  2. Assemble supplies
  3. Apply blue masking tape – Place 1” x 3” or 1” x 4” on tape and mark the tape at end of area to be repaired. This way, you won’t use Epoxy beyond repair area or length of board. Start with small area until you determine how much adhesive needed and how long it takes to finish whole procedure.
  4. Place Acetone saturated rag over end of putty knife to remove glue.
  5. Using sandpaper over end of putty knife, rub up under stripe to make both surfaces rough. If overlap will not lift up enough so putty knife and sandpaper will go in, use just sandpaper and slide back and forth and then turn over and do again. Then, place Acetone saturated rag over end of putty knife to remove glue/dust.
  6. Use wet paper towel to clean wall area where you plan to place suction cups. Wipe suction cups with wet paper towel so they adhere better. Attach cups above and below overlap edge – do not place on stripe – it’s an uneven surface. Need to be sure there is sufficient room to work above lowest suction cup. Make trial run, without using Epoxy, to be sure you have correct amount of boards and shim for good tension.
  7. When satisfied you are ready, leave cups attached, remove boards, squirt adhesive in disposable plate, and mix with stick provided with adhesive or similar item. At this point, you need to move rapidly because Epoxy will may set-up before you are ready.
  8. Using putty knife, lift up stripe, smear adhesive with brush all along area marked.
  9. Remove adhesive from putty knife and along top of stripe that’s covered with blue tape, and wipe both with Acetone.
  10. Place long board along stripe, place tension sticks under suction cup handles and over board.
  11. Use shims, if necessary to get sufficient pressure. Use putty knife to be sure there is sufficient pressure. If tight enough, putty knife will not slide under overlap. Clear all areas of any excess Epoxy with Acetone.
  12. Wait time is determined by directions on Adhesive package. Ron waited 3 hours before removing boards and suction cups. While waiting, find another area that needs repair and begin again at #3 or clean up a previously finished area.
  13. When time is up, remove boards, and gently check with putty knife to be sure all area has sufficiently adhered. If not, guess what? You will need to begin again at Item 4. Reasons: some old glue was still there, area not rough enough, not enough Epoxy, not enough tension on boards, or didn’t wait long enough. Are we having fun yet? There is a definite learning curve, but after a couple of areas or finished, you are on your way! 

Once we were in an area where he could work on this project continuously, he was able to take care of all the areas around the 5th wheel in about 10 days. Repair was needed on about 90% of our house. He averaged 9’-12’ per day depending on weather and how early he started. Usually started about 8am, 2nd application about noon, 3rd application about 4 pm and maybe another before dark. It is a slow process but the more suction cups you have, the more areas you can glue at a time. Ron really wanted to complete this project so he stayed with it until it was all done. This scenario worked for him! Good luck!

If you have questions, feel free to call – e-mail may take longer for reply.

[email address: rcaawilson (at) aol.com
]

503/702-3607

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