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New Horizons Owners Newsletter

Volume 6 Number 4  ---  September 2004

Editor: Lloyd Treichel lloyd@wandrin.us


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Editor's Foreword

Where are the travel notes from the full timers?  How about just one great thing that you have seen or done.  Contributions are needed so that the editor has something to do. Send anything. Bad grammar and dangling participles will be handled by the editor for inclusion in the NHOG Exchange. In addtion, contributions are welcome from non-owners that are pertinent to the New Horizons Owners Group.


New Horizon Owners Travel Notes

Joe Thompson and Mary K. O'Neill

July 28, 2004


Our travel path crossed that of Terry and Eunice Barton at an RV park in Arkadelphia, AR in late July. We were headed to Texas and the Bartons with their two grandsons, Dakota and Xavier, were on their way to Illinois in their 34' triple slide 5th-wheel.  We had stopped overnight at the same park.  We had traveled four thousand miles since June 1 and  Mary had just commented that day that we had not seen any New Horizons all summer. The Bartons had been working in Texas much of the time since the rally. After returning one grandson home, the Barton
s were headed to the factory for some minor slide adjustments.


Ralph and Mary Throckmorton #546
August 13, 2004

We are in North Sidney, NS, waiting for our mail to arrive.  It was ordered a week ago but hasn't made it to the local post office.  Since it is Friday and no mail comes during the weekend, we will be at this campground at least three days more.  When it does come, we will book a ferry to Newfoundland.  Fortunately, we are in a nice RV park, few mosquitoes, Internet hookup, and not too expensive.  I flew my kite this a.m. and am looking forward to a 3 km trip to the grocery store to provision up for the weekend.
 
Thus far, we have toured areas in and around Yarmouth, Digby, Annapolis Royal, Kejimkujjik National Park, Lunenburg, Halifax, Truro, Pictou, the Cabot Trail, Cape Breton Highlands National Park, and the Louisbourg National Historic Site.  We did the fishermen's museum in Lunenburg, the Alexander Graham Bell Museum in Baddeck and will do the Guglielmo Marconi National Historic Site tomorrow.  We saw Fort Louisbourg yesterday.  It wore us out.  Now that site is closed due to the fact that many Canada Park Service employees are out on strike.  Just after I dropped 150 Canadian for yearlong park and historical site passes for Mary and me.  We have learned that the Marconi site has no pickets and is open.
 
This year is a Nova Scotia celebration of the 400th anniversary of the Acadians arriving in NS.  Lots of campers from Louisiana are in the Yarmouth to Annapolis Royal area.  There are many festivals.  Over 40 tall ships came to Halifax and then dispersed to other NS ports.  Ten were in Lunenburg while we were there; we got to go on them and look around.  At Lunenburg we took a sail powered cruise of the harbor. 


Lloyd Treichel #591
September 22, 2004

Since the Rally in Fredericksburg, the Wandrin Wagon has been towed about 7000 miles. Lots of visiting, searching for cinnamon rolls and exploring along the way has managed to fill the time.

As I was headed to Jackson, Michigan, I had stopped for a lunch break.  When I was entering the rig, I realized that there was something not right with one of the tires.  A closer examination revealed I had a serious tire wear problem.  A quick 50 mile detour sent me off to Elkhart, Indiana and MorRyde.  Their alignment schedule was full.  However, after a brief examination of the alignment and the state of the tire, they put me on the schedule the following morning.

I considered myself very fortunate to be so close to Elkhart when I needed the alignment.  Could I be that lucky again?

Apple Creek Campground in DePere, WI is where I spend at least a month every summer.  That is where I met NH owners Rick and Nancy Seiler.  When Rick is not teaching real estate in Hawaii about every two weeks, they are traveling on the mainland in their 29 footer. 

Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada is where I found Ron and Ginette Green living in their NH unit at the Hartt Island RV park. They live in the rig until mid winter when they move to an apartment. They will be full timing as soon as they save up a few more dollars. The used NH rig they bought in 2003 replaced a stolen fifth wheel and truck. Needless to say the new truck has all the anti-theft devices that are manufactured. 


Rig Weight Causes Tire Problems

Allan and Mary Strong
Received September 4, 2004

This is just a heads up to New Horizon people. 

We love our rig
and thought we were doing everything right regarding our tires. It never occurred to us to check the load capacity since we figured New Horizons would have put the correct tire on the unit.  When we purchased our 35', 18500# GVW unit in 2001 the tires supplied were Goodyear Wrangler HT 16". We have been experiencing tire failures (3 in the past 3 years) and have been wondering if we have just been having bad luck.  We only had one tire failure on any of our cars in our lifetime.  We kept asking questions and got back that it was a defective tire, it was the heat, it was the UV rays, etc.

Well at the last tire purchase the dealer looked up the load capacity of our tires and determined that each tire was good for 3250# for a total capacity of about 13000#. That was a shock since the empty camper weight is 12700# and our axle measured weight loaded was 13700#.

Owners of larger rigs (perhaps all people regardless of size rig) should check their axle weights and replace their tires with Goodyear G614 RST tires if their loaded capacity is very near or exceeds the above. The G614 tires are good for 3750# each giving a 15000# loaded axle capacity.

At least in our case, the problem of over loaded tires should be solved.


Pin Box Fracture Puts Travel On Hold

Reese and Joan Maddock
Received August 6, 2004

Passing along the following incident I recently experienced.  I have kept Ken apprised of this whole ordeal, along with pictures, as well as a copy of this.

We Have A Problem  On the morning of July 6th shortly after I had departed Hart Ranch in South Dakota I noticed that my king pin hitch was not in it's normal position.  I immediately slowed and stopped to take a closer look and found that the front of my Trail Air hitch was deflected approximately 20 degrees up instead of being level.  The fiberglass directly in front of the pin box was also broken because of the deflection of the pin box.  Not feeling very safe on the edge of the highway, I slowly proceed a short distance to get 'off' the highway.   It was apparent that something major was wrong with the pin box area and I made several investigative phone calls.  I was able to get a RVDA-RVIA certified 'mobile RV repairman' to come out and provide some 'expert' advise (in discussions with people at the Ranch I found I unknowingly ended up with probably "the best RV person" in the Black Hills).  He felt that I could slowly return to Hart Ranch where further investigation would be made.  It was a slow worried 13 miles back to the Ranch but was completed without incident.

Analysis and Repair The repairman proceeded to remove all the fiberglass under the bedroom area.  Uncovering of this whole area revealed that the successful return to the Ranch was fortunate.  Major "fractures" had occurred around the pin box area.  To provide adequate room for the welder to work, the carpet and floor of the front wardrobe was removed and the lower half of the front cap was loosened and moved forward (the center portion of the wardrobe floor was deflected up a couple of inches).  There was also some "cracks" in pin box area as well as in the sidewall area forward and under the bedroom slideout and the bolt through the sidewall and frame was broken (not a fresh break).  Due to the extent of the major fractures, etc., total replacement of the two forward frame members as well as the support frame of the pin box was necessary.  Because of the extent of the fractures, and cracks, mere rewelding was not an option.  It was also noted that between 50-75 percent of the fractures/cracks were 'old' and filled with rust and corrosion.  Just what incident(s) caused the fractures/cracks is buried back someplace in the over 88,000 miles #326 has been towed - some of which was over very, very rough roads.  The services of a welder were in order and he removed all the broken steel and replaced it with a heavier material as well as some reinforcing gussets making the whole structure sound, if not stronger, than the original.  We will never know when, why or where it all started - there have been no accidents.  We were very fortunate to not have totally lost #326 and had our belief 'in why we attend Mass every Sunday' reaffirmed.

Pin Box History Review  There have been some things in the past "that now" tell us that something was going on under all the fiberglass.  Even after getting the truck out from under the fiver, none of the fractures nor cracks were visible until the fiberglass was removed.  The pin box area was inspected by Harold [Johnson] and his son at the '01 Rally and their 'look/see' said no cracks were visible.  They were inspecting all king pin/pin box areas at the rally - there was some indications that some cracks had developed on certain units - Harold told me at that time that there was no problems with the 70 degree pin boxes - the only history they had at that time was with the 30 degree units.

About three years ago it was noticed that the front wardrobe doors were hard to open/close and 'dragging'.  Thinking it was a normal 'wear and tear' item the doors were adjusted and nothing further was thought about it at that time.  Then, approximately two and a half years ago I noticed that a small crack had developed in the outside fiberglass at the lower left corner of the bedroom slide.  This grew, very slowly over time, to about two inches and I covered it with sealant.  It was also noted that the crack was more open (or closed) depending whether hooked or unhooked to the truck indicating some 'internal' movement of the underlying structure.  About the same time, just forward of the developing crack, I noticed the bolt head that holds the side to the main frame was slightly ajar - out about one sixteenth of an inch or less - I tried to move the bolt but it was very solid - to prevent any water intrusion I put sealant around the bolt head.  During a visit to the factory two years ago I discussed the crack in the fiberglass with Ken - as the whole bedroom slide opening area is surrounded with steel it was felt that the area was sound and no reason for the developing crack could be surmised and the sealant was in order.

Hindsight is Excellent  Like, Monday morning quarterbacking, our hindsight is always 20/20 or better.  I now believe that all of the above 'small' things were all tied together and were a result of the pin box area fractures allowing things to flex.  In my discussions with Harold during/after the inspection he performed he advised that 'some' movement or deflection of the king pin structure is normal - he stated however that this movement would be well under an inch.  A year ago I installed a Trail Air hitch on #326 to soften the ride.  In watching the movement of that hitch structure while underway I don't believe I ever detected any movement/deflection even approaching a half inch - hard to gauge it when going down the Interstate at 60mph - there was some movement, but it was very slight, which said the pin box area was holding "even with the unknown fractures"!  The morning I pulled out of our site at Hart Ranch, I tested the brakes, as I always do just as I start to move.  This test resulted in a very abrupt stop and is felt was the cause of the 'new' cracks observed around the pin box area.  This very aggressive brake action I believe was the result of the brakes/drums being damp from having driven in some very wet conditions just prior to arriving at Hart Ranch and parking without them having a chance to dry.  Just when the observed major hitch deflection occurred is unknown as during our departure several 'good byes' were made and no one, including myself, noticed anything amiss.

As discussed with Ken, the purpose of this is not to 'cry wolf' and cause anxiety with owners concerning their rigs and in turn people end up at the factory wanting their rig checked.  This was an isolated incident.  There have been broken and cracked pin boxes in the past - not necessarily with NH - as I found at Hart Ranch there was 'a lot' of interest from some of the 400+ guests and "Lookie Lou's" - am sure it was 'advertising' NH would rather not have.   The purpose is to share my experience.  Additionally, all owners should be aware 'of the little' things happening in their rigs.  Most things have a cause/affect and have a very obvious explanation.  But as I have experienced, there were some little subtle things going on in/around the pin box area.  Even inspections did not (could not even be seen) reveal anything.

Back on the Road  Bottom line is that we dodged another bullet and didn't end up with #326 out in a field someplace all broken.  It hasn't deterred our belief that we have the best possible RV there is - it was just a little detour in our schedule - Ken, as well as Phil I'm sure, are wrestling with how they may be able to help with some of the repair cost - we love our 32RKSSS very much and hopefully will see all at Rally 2005 - happy trails !! 

Also if anyone would wish to discuss any aspect of this they could give me a call at (805) 736-4329 or Cell (805) 717-1013